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I have to disagree with you on the Johnny Cash side of things there Bill. It depends on what bands you are talking about, but many of your underground RnR bands such as Dimestore Halos, Black Halos, Trash Brats, Kevin K. and other bands of that sort, along with bigger names such as Social Distortion (the main one), Paul Westerberg, Ryan Adams, and such have always said Cash was a main influence. Johnny was also HUGE at one point in his life, and the recent self-titled black album produced by Rick Rubin almost made him a household name again. I wasn't the biggest fan, I like some of his stuff, but Cash was hardly an unknown.
I agree however on everything you said about Hanoi.
As for Vain, I don't know. The one album, I think it is Fade has that first song that is almost exactly the same as Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"[/i]. Vain was good, but he always seemed to be a step behind what was popular.
Tigettailz were on time with the first album, but by the time they got around to Berzerk! it was getting mighty late in the game.
I think The Wildhearts should have been MUCH larger than they were back in the early 90's. Not exactly pure Glam, but enough in there that they could have helped keep the "scene" going a little bit. But I think the personalities and attitudes hurt them as much as the drugs and alcohol did.
Last Of The Teenage Idols should have also been pretty damn big.
T-Rex should have ruled the world.
<font color="#FF0000" size="1">[ September 29, 2004 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Carl I. ]</font>
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i hear ya' on that carl but i was refering more to individuals rather then bands. you have to notice that after someone dies you get the people on messageboards and the like claiming how that artist was their biggest influence, they always listen to them and was a fan their whole life even though over the course or months they have never brought up even knowing any song by such artist. you know the ones, what's hot now so i can claim to be all over it.
as for bands, i don't really pay attention to their infulences because a lot of the time their are just contrived to match the genre they are trying to break into. (this doesn't hold true for bands that already have established fan bases) for example, if a unknown band was claiming to be a gothic band you will likely see Bauhaus, The Cure, Alien Sex Feind, etc... if it's industrial you will see NIN, Manson, Skinny Puppy, etc... Glam will get you Poison, Motley Crue, Kiss, etc.. basic rock will have Backyard Babies, Social Distortion, and whatever hot bands from the last 2 or 3 years were. You don't know how many times I would read 'Hanoi Rocks were our biggest infulence' and then i would listen to them and think that there may have actually been two bands named Hanoi Rocks, if you know what i mean. there is a difference between being a favorite band and an influencial band. I love Hanoi but by no means do we even closely resemble Hanoi besides the cover we did.
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Oh yeah, people-wise I agree 100%.
Off topic a bit, do you ever read Ain't It Cool News? It's a movie site, but the guy who runs it, Harry Knowles (pretty well known geek) pretty much cites everything under the sun as to being his major influence. Anytime a movie remake is announced, he spews venom about how the original shaped his life in sooo many ways. Anytime somebody dies, he goes on and on about how that person touched his life soooo much when he was a kid. I am impressed by some of these people who are so in love with something that everybody truely may have touched them, but at the same time, they do their true influences and favorites a disservice by NOT being "loya", if you will, to one certain person.
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I've read this thread and agree with many people on their choice of bands, however I'd just like to say one 'individual' that I consider never had, and still hasn't got his true acclaim and worth or "made it big" is Ky Anto of Sassy Scarlet/Robin Black fame, that guy is an unknown entity, he plays any instrument you care to lay in front of him, produces, sings and writes and in my eyes a true musician, from blues and acoustic to scorching hot RNR, guitars to drums n percussion, Ky, imo has got the lot, and I so hope he gets what he so deserves.
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I've never been to Ain't It Cool News but then again, i'm not much of a movie buff. I have only been inside a movie theater 3 times in my life. I have a hard time sitting still for 2 hours. It usually takes me two or three sittings to finish a movie. it took me over a month to watch all of signs. what's the saying, i have the attention span of a goldfish. i think that's why cartoons are high on my list of entertainment.
alot of my friends here are huge movie buffs. they will always quote movies like star wars, aliens, blah blah blah and i just sit here with a blank look on my face, my natural state.
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carl or creeper I think t.rex was pretty popular before he died I remember him being on some weekly music show before mtv(dam I'm old) does any one else know what i'm talking about it was around 1975 I think beta was around
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He had his success, but he never ruled as large as he should have. He never cracked the US, and especially at that time period, that was the main sign of having "made it".
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TRex was very popular in the USA. The media doesn't want you to know that. That's why you never hear any of Bolan's hit singles on oldies radio here except for that song that Robert Palmer screwed up so fucking badly as a cover in the 1980s.
Top 40 radio didn't matter that much in the scheme of things. Most of the TRex fans here bought albums, and the singles were very, very hard to find anyway.
White Swan and Hot Love were hits here, as well as GIO. Jeepster and a few others skirted the charts, but not as big as the first three I mentioned.
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I don't now if I agree with that he had a tv thing in england oh and off subject you must have seen yellow submarine beatles there's this game from japan for play station 2 katasometing tolaly ecpeting beatles to pop up I'll post the name later but it's so funny danceing pandas mushrooms rolling balls making stars too funny
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sorry but I need to be a geek jay for sure your cool thanks for noticing other t.rex songs
